Well I seem to have made some progress I have a vmail login screen at /cgi-bin/vmail/login I had to install libdigest-md5-perl and i put the css in /var/www along with the logo so how do i create the domains, users, etc I assume with the VE- scripts, I don't understand what to do with them. Or do i just us phpMyAdmin or something to insert valuse into the databas, that seems tedious.