[Vmail-discuss] That's the only way it got approved.

Susanna Montoya zvyvi at ctfs.com
Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:09:35 +0100


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The pill itself is featured on the cover of several magazines! They =
betrayed their responsibility to act as a watchdog for the American =
people.
Meanwhile, which drug, after being launched, quickly became the most =
complained about drug in America? And what do amphetamines do? So, to =
answer your question, yes, Eli Lilly silences dissenters as well.
Here's how Barry Jacobs, a Princeton neuroscientist, describes what =
happens to a person given an SSRI antidepressant. So there was a basic =
need to hide these risks right from the beginning, and that's what was =
done.
And those who come, and don't ask any embarrassing questions, get the =
lobster dinners and maybe they get a little honorarium for attending =
this educational meeting.
That shows up, just in the same way that some people on placebos feel =
better.
An act was passed in which a lot of the FDA's funding came from the drug =
industry: the PDUFA Act, or Prescription Drug User Fee Act.
He said, "I absolutely believed the common wisdom that these =
antipsychotic drugs actually had improved things and that they had =
totally revolutionized how we treated schizophrenia. Are your =
medications making you sick?
SS: In light of the FDA's failure to warn us about Prozac, what about =
their recent negligence on the issue of the risk of suicide in children =
given antidepressants like Paxil?
It really is the answer that unlocks this mystery of why the drugs would =
have this long-term problematic effect. They sent out notices to the =
media questioning his affiliation with Harvard Medical School, etc.
This happened again and again in the pediatric drug trials of =
antidepressants. All these drugs may curb a target symptom slightly more =
effectively than a placebo does for a short period of time, say six =
weeks.
No one wants to talk about that either. All this shows how the American =
public was betrayed and didn't know about all the problems with these =
drugs and why it was kept from them.
But don't they also use their power and money to silence their critics? =
He's written several books on the history of psychopharmacology.
He also managed to get access to some of the trial results and he blew =
the whistle. I have only learned through your many written articles.
What sort of ill effects were people reporting?
They're slow to even put black box warnings on them. RW: That's exactly =
right. The real paradigm is: People diagnosed with mental disorders have =
no known problem with their neurotransmitter systems; and these drugs =
perturb the normal function of neurotransmitters.
And they saw that it looks like these drugs are increasing the risk of =
suicide and there are really no signs of benefits on the target symptoms =
of depression.
That's the only way it got approved.
If we know that we have a scientifically shown risk that these drugs =
increase suicide, shouldn't you at least warn about it?
He's finding that the drugs are being overused and cause severe side =
effects.
They found that as that enlargement occurred, it was associated with a =
worsening of the psychotic symptoms, a worsening of negative symptoms.
It was absolutely covered up. So you were seeing these very problematic =
side effects even at the same time that you were seeing very modest =
efficacy, if any, over placebo in ameliorating depression.
He wrote about this case, and yet in the United States, we got almost no =
news about this secret settlement and this whole perversion of the legal =
process. That's what your expectation would be. All trademarks, =
registered trademarks and servicemarks mentioned on this site are the =
property of their respective owners. Why do you refer to this increase =
as an epidemic?
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quickly became the most complained about drug in America? And what do =
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well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's how Barry Jacobs, a Princeton=20
neuroscientist, describes what happens to a person given an SSRI =
antidepressant. So=20
there was a basic need to hide these risks right from the beginning, and =
that's what=20
was done.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And those who come, and don't ask any =
embarrassing=20
questions, get the lobster dinners and maybe they get a little =
honorarium for=20
attending this educational meeting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That shows up, just in the same way =
that some=20
people on placebos feel better.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An act was passed in which a lot of the =
FDA's=20
funding came from the drug industry: the PDUFA Act, or Prescription Drug =
User Fee=20
Act.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He said, "I absolutely believed the =
common wisdom=20
that these antipsychotic drugs actually had improved things and that =
they had=20
totally revolutionized how we treated schizophrenia. Are your =
medications making you=20
sick?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SS: In light of the FDA's failure to =
warn us about=20
Prozac, what about their recent negligence on the issue of the risk of =
suicide in=20
children given antidepressants like Paxil?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It really is the answer that unlocks =
this mystery=20
of why the drugs would have this long-term problematic effect. They sent =
out notices=20
to the media questioning his affiliation with Harvard Medical School,=20
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This happened again and again in the =
pediatric drug=20
trials of antidepressants. All these drugs may curb a target symptom =
slightly more=20
effectively than a placebo does for a short period of time, say six=20
weeks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No one wants to talk about that either. =
All this=20
shows how the American public was betrayed and didn't know about all the =
problems=20
with these drugs and why it was kept from them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But don't they also use their power and =
money to=20
silence their critics? He's written several books on the history of=20
psychopharmacology.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He also managed to get access to some =
of the trial=20
results and he blew the whistle. I have only learned through your many =
written=20
articles.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What sort of ill effects were people=20
reporting?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They're slow to even put black box =
warnings on=20
them. RW: That's exactly right. The real paradigm is: People diagnosed =
with mental=20
disorders have no known problem with their neurotransmitter systems; and =
these drugs=20
perturb the normal function of neurotransmitters.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And they saw that it looks like these =
drugs are=20
increasing the risk of suicide and there are really no signs of benefits =
on the=20
target symptoms of depression.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's the only way it got =
approved.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If we know that we have a =
scientifically shown risk=20
that these drugs increase suicide, shouldn't you at least warn about=20
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He's finding that the drugs are being =
overused and=20
cause severe side effects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They found that as that enlargement =
occurred, it=20
was associated with a worsening of the psychotic symptoms, a worsening =
of negative=20
symptoms.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It was absolutely covered up. So you =
were seeing=20
these very problematic side effects even at the same time that you were =
seeing very=20
modest efficacy, if any, over placebo in ameliorating =
depression.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He wrote about this case, and yet in =
the United=20
States, we got almost no news about this secret settlement and this =
whole perversion=20
of the legal process. That's what your expectation would be. All =
trademarks,=20
registered trademarks and servicemarks mentioned on this site are the =
property of=20
their respective owners. Why do you refer to this increase as an=20
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