[Cambridge-youths] Fwd: Report from the bells working party + agenda

[Patrick Brooke]

Dear George,

The Property Committee are meeting to discuss the Quinquennial, among 
other things, on the 15th.  The report mentioned that the frame was 
showing signs of rust (Jonathan has previously raised this at SCY AGMs 
on more than one occasion), but I do not recall that it was flagged as a 
requirement.  There is also some repair work needed to the stone work on 
the tower, but again this does not need immediate attention.  If you 
have any other specific queries, I can raise this at the Property 
Committee meeting.

There is another typo in addition to those that Jonathan has mentioned: 
on page 10: I do not think that adding a sharp 6th is particularly 
desirable, though I would agree with possibly adding a flat 6th.

In section 2.1 you make several uses of "unanimously".  11 votes from 26 
responses does not represent unanimity (ref page 22).

The remit on the first page states that you should research further 
solutions and make formal proposals, and yet in section 3 you have a 
single proposal.  You acknowledge that there are a variety of views, but 
do not present any proposals to accommodate those views.

I do not agree that Great Saint Mary's has one of the country's worst 
ring of bells.  I believe that if it had the Society would be nowhere 
near as strong as it has been for at least the last 30 years.  You 
mention the difficulty of the bells for learning, and yet the tower has 
been responsible for an active and successful recruitment program over 
the last few years.

I do feel that we should do whatever we can to improve the conditions 
for ringing.  I thought that the Whitechapel report looked as though it 
would have several sensible proposals, so I think that we should at 
least seriously consider this among other options.

Patrick


Ms George Unsworth wrote:
> Dear Jonathan,
>
> It would be nice to pretend we included the deliberate mistakes to 
> check you were all still awake but, alas, I fear I must claim sole 
> responsibility as typo-checker!  Sigh.
>
> For what it is worth, Sue has given me the church architect's contact 
> details and I will be meeting her in a couple of weeks to see if the 
> Quinquennial has thrown up any problems with the church building that 
> we ought to know about, so it may be that she suggests a tell-tale 
> might be a good idea.
>
> Meanwhile, congratulations on your media performance on the radio. 
> You'll be on Big Brother next!
>
> g
>
>
> Jonathan Shanklin wrote:
>> This seems a very comprehensive review.
>>
>> I spotted a couple of interesting points, though I fear that both are 
>> typos.
>> Section 2.2 suggests that we now only have one ringer.....
>> and I'm not sure what is going to cause an influx of refugees from 
>> Oxford in
>> 2009 as indicated in 2.4.
>>
>> One possible gap is the statement that the crack in the east wall of the
>> ringing room is likely to be cosmetic.  If so, why has it grown ?  It is
>> perhaps worth monitoring to see whether changes in the structure are 
>> actually
>> taking place, although given that a decision is urgent there is no 
>> time to do
>> so in order to affect the decision.
>>
>> Given that whatever we decide is going to affect the ringers for the 
>> next 50 to
>> 100 years, I suggest that whilst the debate is carried out by all, 
>> votes are
>> only cast by those likely to be ringing in 50 years time.  I won't be 
>> one of
>> them, so my bias towards reducing the number of bells won't count.
>>
>> Jonathan Shanklin
>>
>> j.shanklin@bas.ac.uk
>> Head of Meteorology and Ozone Monitoring Unit
>> British Antarctic Survey, Madingley Road, Cambridge CB3 0ET, England
>> http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/jds
>> http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~jds
>>
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